Grammar is in the BRAIN, not on a piece of paper - Tania Ionin & Silvina Montrul



Grammar instruction or grammar learning? We dive into this with today's guests. 

Tania Ionin is a Professor of Linguistics and Director of Graduate Studies in Linguistics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Her areas of expertise include second language acquisition and experimental semantics, with a focus on the nominal domain.

Silvina Montrul is Marjorie Roberts Professor of Liberal Arts and Sciences, Professor in the Department of Spanish and Portuguese and Professor in the Department of Linguistics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. She is the director of the Second Language Acquisition and Bilingualism Lab, founder and director of the University Language Academy for Children, and former director of the Doctoral Program in Second Language Acquisition and Teacher Education (SLATE).

Together, they have written and published the book "Second Language Acquisition: Introducing Intervention Research." 

In this episode, they discuss: 

  •  grammatical knowledge in the context of language acquisition

  • what intervention research is

  • why we expect too much of adult learners 

  • how instruction contributes or doesn't contribute to grammar acquisition

  • efficacious conditions for grammar instruction 

  • how educators can influence the learning of grammar

  • why studying monolinguals helps to understand L2 acquisition

  • literate vs illiterate native speakers for a study on grammatical knowledge 

For more on today's guests:

1. Get their book "SLA: Introducing Intervention Research"

2. Silvina's website

3. Tania's website


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About Tania Ionin

Tania Ionin is Professor of Linguistics and Director of Graduate Studies in Linguistics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. She received her PhD in Cognitive Science from MIT in 2003, and has worked at the University of Illinois since 2007. Her areas of expertise include second language acquisition and experimental semantics, with focus on the nominal domain. She has published two co-authored books (Ionin and Matushansky, Cardinals: The Syntax and Semantics of Cardinal-containing Expressions, MIT Press, 2018; Ionin and Montrul, Second Language Acquisition: Introducing Intervention Research, Cambridge University Press, 2023), a co-edited handbook (Ionin, Montrul and Slabakova: The Routledge Handbook of Second Language Acquisition, Morphosyntax and Semantics, Routledge, 2024) and numerous articles. She regularly teaches courses in experimental research methods, language acquisition, psycholinguistics and pedagogical grammar.

I can be contacted at tionin@illinois.edu 

My departmental profile is at https://linguistics.illinois.edu/directory/profile/tionin  and my website is https://publish.illinois.edu/tionin/research/ 

Publications: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/13621688231153759 

The website for our textbook is: https://www.cambridge.org/highereducation/books/second-language-acquisition/7AD22BE04CB8D7C3A43C420732FF7483#overview  


See also https://linguistics.illinois.edu/spotlight/publication/second-language-acquisition-introducing-intervention-research


About Silvina Montrul

Silvina Montrul is Marjorie Roberts Professor of Liberal Arts and Sciences, Professor in the Department of Spanish and Portuguese and Professor in the Department of Linguistics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. She was Head of the Department of Spanish and

Portuguese (2010-2016). She is affiliated with the Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology. She is the director of the Second Language Acquisition and Bilingualism Lab,

founder and director of the University Language Academy for Children, and former director of

the Doctoral Program in Second Language Acquisition and Teacher Education (SLATE). In

2013 she was named University Scholar for her outstanding contributions to research, teaching

and service at the University of Illinois. Her research focuses on linguistic and psycholinguistic

approaches to second language acquisition and bilingualism, with particular emphasis on heritage speakers, and has been funded by the University of Illinois, the National Science Foundation and the National Institutes of Health. She is editor of Second Language Research, former Associate Editor of Linguistic Approaches to Bilingualism, and former editorial board member of the Annual Review of Applied Linguistics. She is author of over a hundred journal articles and book chapters and of several books: The Acquisition of Spanish (Benjamins, 2004), Incomplete Acquisition in Bilingualism (Benjamins, 2008), El bilingüismo en el mundo hispano hablante [Bilingualism in the Spanish-speaking world] (2013, Wiley-Blackwell) and Heritage Language Acquisition (2016, Cambridge University Press), Her book Native Speakers, Interrupted (2022, Cambridge University Press) was the recipient of the 2024 L. Bloomfield book award from the Linguistic Society of America. Together with Tania Ionin, she published Second Language Acquisition: Introducing Intervention Research (2023, Cambridge University Press) and co-edited The Routledge Handbook of Second Language Morphosyntax and Semantics (2024, Taylor and Francis Group). 

My contact email: montrul@illinois.edu 

My website: https://linguistics.illinois.edu/directory/profile/montrul 

My lab website: http://publish.illinois.edu/uiuc-slab/ 


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