We CANNOT and DO NOT Control What Students Learn - Bill VanPatten



So many teachers focus on teaching when they should focus on something else. In this episode, we dive into this with the great Bill VanPatten. 

Bill VanPatten is an award-winning scholar and teacher with an international reputation in the fields of second language acquisition and second language teaching. He is a requested speaker at conferences and meetings and over the course of his career he has given over 500 keynote speeches, plenaries, invited talks, and workshops.

We chat with Bill about why:

  • the majority of teaching is not in accordance with SLA research

  • Krashen was right

  • Krashen's theories are not used in language education

  • teachers need to get rid of the "Atlas Complex" 

  • most people don't understand what a communicative classroom means

  • grammar rules are not psychologically real

  • many researchers don't want to talk to teachers

  • understanding how non-college educated L1 speakers process language shows explicit instruction's ineffectiveness 

  • if learners can do your assignments using AI, the assignment is flawed

For more from Bill:

1. Visit his website

2. His recent article "Krashen forty years later: Final comments"


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About Bill VanPatten

Bill VanPatten is an award-winning scholar and teacher with an international reputation in the fields of second language acquisition and second language teaching. He is a requested speaker at conferences and meetings and over the course of his career he has given over 500 keynote speeches, plenaries, invited talks, and workshops.

In 2018, he left teaching and, while still having one foot in the door in the world of second language acquisition, he has become an award-winning writer of fiction. 

Visit his website at www.billvanpatten.ne

Read his most recent article “Krashen forty years later: Final comments”: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352524440_Krashen_forty_years_later_Final_comments



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